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Post by Markdaspark on Sept 12, 2015 17:10:53 GMT 10
Just thought id re-post the surf rigs i use.......i remember being asked for them previously so here goes:   Hopefully someone will get benefit from this post  |
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Post by Fishin Dan on Sept 12, 2015 20:09:47 GMT 10
Great info mate. Interesting that you put your sinker on the leader rather than the main line. Might have to think about that
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Post by Markdaspark on Sept 12, 2015 20:59:23 GMT 10
Great info mate. Interesting that you put your sinker on the leader rather than the main line. Might have to think about that Only thing I ever put on my main line is a snap swivel mate.......then I can change my pre made rigs quickly as and when required. |
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Post by Fishin Dan on Sept 12, 2015 21:00:27 GMT 10
And if you use Klik Sinkers you can change the weight easily and quickly too |
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Post by Markdaspark on Sept 12, 2015 21:14:08 GMT 10
And if you use Klik Sinkers you can change the weight easily and quickly too Yes mate...... I predominantly used Klik sinkers for this years Fraser Trip. I only used my surf sinkers on the last day as I got broke off and the fish were biting......I quickly changed to a pre-made rig I had that was weighted with a surf sinker already. |
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Post by GeneB on Sept 13, 2015 2:12:46 GMT 10
Very much like our rigs in Florida. We put the sinker on the leader, between 2 swivels, because the leader is a heavier line test, less abrasion.
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Post by AlveyMangles on Sept 13, 2015 20:57:33 GMT 10
Thanks for that. I am always interested to see what rigs people use. I use something similar except not with a snap swivel but it seems like a good idea.
Anyone using a Patternoster type rig with an Alvey?
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Post by Fishin Dan on Sept 13, 2015 21:18:36 GMT 10
Thanks for that. I am always interested to see what rigs people use. I use something similar except not with a snap swivel but it seems like a good idea. Anyone using a Patternoster type rig with an Alvey? I use one sometimes in the lighter lines with 2 hooks for chasing Whiting. I have found that they seem to tangle a bit more, even if using a 3 way swivel. Or maybe it was because of the swivels? Maybe the line was too light to turn the swivels properly. Not sure. |
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Post by Mauricio on Sept 13, 2015 21:22:42 GMT 10
Thanks for that. I am always interested to see what rigs people use. I use something similar except not with a snap swivel but it seems like a good idea. Anyone using a Patternoster type rig with an Alvey? I do. And the most simple one. Some time ago I'd just pimp all my rigs, with beads, extra swivels, different knots, etc. But today, I came back to roots, and make that simple but "good-for-dog" rig. When young, I'd just made the rigs with the same spool line. Continuous.   |
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Post by Markdaspark on Sept 14, 2015 7:39:43 GMT 10
I use something similar except not with a snap swivel but it seems like a good idea Yes mate the first thing on my main line is a snap swivel........then all my rigs start with a swivel......it just makes re-rigging much quicker so I don't loose valuable fishing time when I get broke off and the fish are biting |
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Post by Fishin Dan on Sept 14, 2015 9:24:46 GMT 10
Great idea too Mark!
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Post by GeneB on Sept 14, 2015 9:55:20 GMT 10
I like the snap swivel idea for quick changes. There are also just snaps available, if you want to pass on the double swivel set up. Snap link here > snapsNot sure why, but the sinkers available to us are barrel shaped, not round. Must be the love of beer. I also use a small plastic bead to absorb the shock of the sinker hitting the lower swivel, leading to the trace and the hook. |
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Post by Fishin Dan on Sept 14, 2015 10:40:37 GMT 10
I also use a small plastic bead to absorb the shock of the sinker hitting the lower swivel, leading to the trace and the hook. This is a really good thing to do Gene. The sinker banging into the knot can cause problems, as the edges of the hole can be sharp sometimes & cause the knot to weaken. Often too, the sinker will slide slightly onto the knot, and it will no longer slide on the line, but be stuck at one end. |
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Post by Markdaspark on Sept 14, 2015 18:17:23 GMT 10
I also use a small plastic bead to absorb the shock of the sinker hitting the lower swivel, leading to the trace and the hook. This is a really good thing to do Gene. The sinker banging into the knot can cause problems, as the edges of the hole can be sharp sometimes & cause the knot to weaken. Often too, the sinker will slide slightly onto the knot, and it will no longer slide on the line, but be stuck at one end. Yes I've came across this problem too......and on my recent fraser trip converted all my rigs to having a bead either side of the sinker |
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Post by AlveyMangles on Sept 14, 2015 21:24:08 GMT 10
Some great tips, thanks guys. I have trouble sometimes with the line twisting when using the three way swivels, possibly the heavier line works better, I think I will go back to just using Mauricio's method and keep it simple. The bead with the running sinker is going to be mandatory now. Probably keep the leader to the hook shorter than I have been on the running sinker because sometimes that comes in tangled, not sure if a fish, probably a Banjo shark, has been playing with it, or I should stop the line before the rig hits the water so the rig straightens out as I have heard some people do.
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Post by Mauricio on Sept 14, 2015 23:31:04 GMT 10
Some great tips, thanks guys. I have trouble sometimes with the line twisting when using the three way swivels, possibly the heavier line works better, I think I will go back to just using Mauricio's method and keep it simple. The bead with the running sinker is going to be mandatory now. Probably keep the leader to the hook shorter than I have been on the running sinker because sometimes that comes in tangled, not sure if a fish, probably a Banjo shark, has been playing with it, or I should stop the line before the rig hits the water so the rig straightens out as I have heard some people do. Making using the old style, is possible make a full functional paternoster rig in two minutes. And with just a small swivel as a add. But, take care with fluorcarbon lines. So much smooth, the knot tends slip easy. |
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Post by Fishin Dan on Oct 18, 2015 20:43:43 GMT 10
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Post by Markdaspark on Oct 19, 2015 6:03:39 GMT 10
I saw some nice small barrel swivels with a snap on them today Markdaspark, and it reminded me of this thread. So much so that I spent that $2.50 to buy the packet and give them a go! Reckon it was $2.50 well spent mate |
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Post by gary on Dec 5, 2016 10:43:38 GMT 10
I am new here and from the left coast of the US and we do things differently here. I am a little confused. Also I am not even new yet at surf fishing but this is what I am confused about. You use for instance a 15# main line then go to 20# below that to the weight and hooks. We always use the heaviest line as the main line then the weight above or below the hooks but the leader say 15# and the lead with maybe 10 or 12# that way if the lead gets hung up and you only lose the lead
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Post by Mauricio on Dec 5, 2016 19:11:30 GMT 10
Here, we use the main line in small caliber than the rig. For example: I normally use a 0.35 mm mono as main line, and a 0.45 or 0.50 mm fluor as rig.
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Post by GeneB on Dec 6, 2016 2:58:41 GMT 10
The lighter main line for casting distance. The heavier leader for toothy fish, like Bluefish. Otherwise, the leader may be the same as the main line, a swivel being what separates them.
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