questioning a cannon release on Alvey reel

[Last]

I have been reading   on   a  surf fishing site   that  a   breakaway  cannon  can be  used  with a  Alvey  rod/reel    but  for  life of me  i  dont  understand  how  or  where on the rod  you could  tape it on   where it would work    has  any  one  ever  tried a cannon  or saw  one in use on a  Alvey ?

[Mauricio]

A cannon to cast? Its something to see.

[Gumboot]

There's  a guy on u tube from England that shows a compressed air cannon for casting from memory 

[Last]

.A   breakaway  cannon  is  from breakaway tackle  in the  UK   its  a  trigger ,  attaches  on rod  above a  spinning  reel    for  casting . I  think it would work good for chunking  a  heavy sinker on spinner   but  on  a  alvey  reel   it would set  to  far  forward  on  rod .   I  think   maybe  not  .      just  hear say,  I cant find any  pictures of it on a  Alvey.      thought maybe   some of y'all  had.  

[GeneB]

This one?

[Mauricio]

Crazy device.

[Makar]

Is this contraption really necessary considering that most fish which are caught are within easy casting distance of about Alvey outfit anyway

[Mauricio]

Feb 11, 2016 7:45:10 GMT 10 Makar said:

Is this contraption really necessary considering that most fish which are caught are within easy casting distance of about Alvey outfit anyway

In fact, when rockfishing, the fish normally is just about 10-20 metres distance.

[Last]

Feb 11, 2016 4:49:54 GMT 10 GeneB said:

This one?



that thing  would  call every game warden  in the county  come running    

[Last]

Feb 11, 2016 8:36:47 GMT 10 Mauricio said:

Feb 11, 2016 7:45:10 GMT 10 Makar said:

Is this contraption really necessary considering that most fish which are caught are within easy casting distance of about Alvey outfit anyway

In fact, when rockfishing, the fish normally is just about 10-20 metres distance.

   in my pond  the fish are in deep holes  in the winter when water is cold   ,   some  of  them  are reachable from  the  bank  if  ya  know where they are  and  can cast   100 metres with bait out to them

 most are way to far  for any any body . the one i fished to day  bout  50  metres  and I  just barely  get in it  casting against the high wind  with my heavy rod using 5 0z sinker  never did hit it with a  light weight rigs i  dont  think  at least they  never did get  bit .  

 

[Last]

here is a pic of a  breakaway cannon  ,  purty simple  thing  but  got have a place to tape it to rod     are made for  spinning  rigs.

        there was a pic here for a while   !!!       guess i messed it up    

[Mauricio]

Feb 11, 2016 13:26:04 GMT 10 Last said:

here is a pic of a  breakaway cannon  ,  purty simple  thing  but  got have a place to tape it to rod     are made for  spinning  rigs.  

Very interesting device. Would see this working.

[GeneB]

I guess I was thinking of the wrong cannon.

[Mauricio]

Feb 12, 2016 2:02:16 GMT 10 GeneB said:

I guess I was thinking of the wrong cannon.

KKkkk! Me too!! I was thinking a real air pressured cannon.

[Mauricio]

Feb 11, 2016 13:10:46 GMT 10 Last said:

Feb 11, 2016 8:36:47 GMT 10 Mauricio said:

In fact, when rockfishing, the fish normally is just about 10-20 metres distance.

   in my pond  the fish are in deep holes  in the winter when water is cold   ,   some  of  them  are reachable from  the  bank  if  ya  know where they are  and  can cast   100 metres with bait out to them

 most are way to far  for any any body . the one i fished to day  bout  50  metres  and I  just barely  get in it  casting against the high wind  with my heavy rod using 5 0z sinker  never did hit it with a  light weight rigs i  dont  think  at least they  never did get  bit . 

Yes, sometimes, long casts are necessary. In my State, the beaches are shallow, and if beachcasting, sometimes really long casts are necessary to reach the better channels.  Have specialists, with long cast tackle, who can reach 150-200 meters distance using appropriate rods, slim mono lines and 150-200 g sinkers.

[Fishin Dan]

Well I've never seen those devices before! I must admit, I went the same thought route as Gene & Mauri. I can see the benefits of this though, but not sure it would work for an Alvey. They main reason I see is that we hold the line onto the lip of the spool to stop it running off in big loops off the reel. Unless you had this device on the spool itself, I'm not sure it would work properly... Would be an interesting test for you to try one though Last!!! Just make sure you do a write up with photos on here!!!

To be honest, the first thought I had when watching this was it's the same concept as the release aid for bow hunting...

[Last]

ok if do will
 the whole idea  is  to use a alvey on a high mount rod,      but  breakaway cannon   has to sit  straight above spool to work i think  like on spinner reel spool  and on my rods   there is no room  for it there .  so i dont see how to make it work ,  on surf talk  there is couple of old  post saying it will   but no pictures  .  so that is why i thaught i would check with you guys  if  y'all   had seen it used before      ..

 now i  am   thinking  why  wouldnt  the   alvey  easy cast be  same   type   thing  almost  and could be used  on a high  mount rod    
 
that is my reason for thinking  about the breakaway cannon   so  could use  a alvey on a  hi mount  rods    as  i  have  a  arm load of  standard  surf rods  and carp rods  

 that  caused me to order  a  500bc  easy cast  reel  from  my  favorite  USA   distributor    to  try  on  a hi mount  carp rod .  so will let you know how that goes  when  i get a chance  to try it    reel  arrived  yesterday    

next  thoughts are  how to keep  alvey spool from turning  on my version of  a pendelen   wind   up hard  cast  ??

[Mauricio]

Feb 13, 2016 3:05:56 GMT 10 Last said:

ok if do will
 the whole idea  is  to use a alvey on a high mount rod,      but  breakaway cannon   has to sit  straight above spool to work i think  like on spinner reel spool  and on my rods   there is no room  for it there .  so i dont see how to make it work ,  on surf talk  there is couple of old  post saying it will   but no pictures  .  so that is why i thaught i would check with you guys  if  y'all   had seen it used before      ..

 now i  am   thinking  why  wouldnt  the   alvey  easy cast be  same   type   thing  almost  and could be used  on a high  mount rod    
 
that is my reason for thinking  about the breakaway cannon   so  could use  a alvey on a  hi mount  rods    as  i  have  a  arm load of  standard  surf rods  and carp rods  

 that  caused me to order  a  500bc  easy cast  reel  from  my  favorite  USA   distributor    to  try  on  a hi mount  carp rod .  so will let you know how that goes  when  i get a chance  to try it    reel  arrived  yesterday    

next  thoughts are  how to keep  alvey spool from turning  on my version of  a pendelen   wind   up hard  cast  ??

Last, you made me very curious. If you in some time do try it, post here for us.

[Mauricio]

Feb 12, 2016 17:21:48 GMT 10 Fishin Dan said:

Well I've never seen those devices before! I must admit, I went the same thought route as Gene & Mauri. I can see the benefits of this though, but not sure it would work for an Alvey. They main reason I see is that we hold the line onto the lip of the spool to stop it running off in big loops off the reel. Unless you had this device on the spool itself, I'm not sure it would work properly... Would be an interesting test for you to try one though Last!!! Just make sure you do a write up with photos on here!!!

To be honest, the first thought I had when watching this was it's the same concept as the release aid for bow hunting...

Dan, I remember had seen a good time ago an Alvey with a different casting device. I did a bet, but , inglorious. I will see if I kept the pics.

[Fishin Dan]

The easy cast system... Of course Last! How did I forget that!!!

I'm sure there'd be a way to modify that slightly to be a "trigger mechanism" rather than using your thumb to hold it. Although, the pressure of the line is on the actual little "button" raised section, so it might be good enough as it is... You could try mounting something on the rod right where the reel seat is using something like velcro to give it a try....

We want photos & video though Last

[Last]

Feb 12, 2016 17:21:48 GMT 10 Fishin Dan said:

Well I've never seen those devices before! I must admit, I went the same thought route as Gene & Mauri. I can see the benefits of this though, but not sure it would work for an Alvey. They main reason I see is that we hold the line onto the lip of the spool to stop it running off in big loops off the reel. Unless you had this device on the spool itself, I'm not sure it would work properly... Would be an interesting test for you to try one though Last!!! Just make sure you do a write up with photos on here!!!

To be honest, the first thought I had when watching this was it's the same concept as the release aid for bow hunting...

ok Dan  here is a pic    not a good one   but a  pic   ,    I  promise  i  will  get  better  pics  tomarrow  dont know  why the came poorly  guess  evening  sun  when i was fishing    it cast  purty good  on high mount  spinning rod   I caught  good  carp on it this evening,

[Fishin Dan]

Nice Last! Always love seeing people coming up with ways to improve something! You may be the next genius

[Last]

more pics of  breakaway  cannon     release  on  alvey  reel  and   high mount  spinnning  rod     it is attached  with   4 zip ties   works  good   I  take  3 wraps of line around  the  button   holds good till  released     I like  it.



                                                   

                                  

[Mauricio]

Eita! Seems this device got approved, so.

[Last]

Mar 3, 2016 20:16:27 GMT 10 Mauricio said:

Eita! Seems this device got approved, so.

        (  So   )  
       
       I dont know  Mauricio   just a  gismoe  i  found    thats lets  a alvey reel to be used on high mount  rod    prolly  no body  but  me  ever  want  it      

I got a arm load of old  surf spinning rods  and casting rods also setting in  corners    something to do with them  .

[Mauricio]

Mar 4, 2016 1:01:15 GMT 10 Last said:

      
       I dont know  Mauricio   just a  gismoe  i  found    thats lets  a alvey reel to be used on high mount  rod    prolly  no body  but  me  ever  want  it      

I got a arm load of old  surf spinning rods  and casting rods also setting in  corners    something to do with them  .

A lot of rods crying to Last bring them to fish.

[Fishin Dan]

How do you find the length of the butt section with the Alvey reels? Is it awkward having the reel further forward?

[Last]

Mar 4, 2016 9:02:39 GMT 10 Fishin Dan said:

How do you find the length of the butt section with the Alvey reels? Is it awkward having the reel further forward?

NO
I  can  throw it like it had  a     spinning  reel  on it  using the breakaway cannon release   .   the  rod is a  12 ft  salstar  fast tip  spinning surf rod   with a  long  handle  and  it cast  very  well   using  20 lb  line   and   5 oz  sinker with bait  .              i can chunk it prolly   70 yds  with  bait  easy.   no  changes in the rod   i  like it  better  than if it had a  okuma  90  and that is what i  had on it before  replace it  with the  650  alvey

   if i tried  to cast it  like a  low mount alvey rod  prolly  have a wreck   

 I also  put  a  alvey easy cast  on   12 ft  pioneer  carp  high mount  rod  and it   do  well  also   but  had  problem  with   easy cast  reels  .   i  tried  a  heavy sinker and hard cast  and  got a  line  cut in the button    that  aint good    pop the  line  in heart beat  .      then  had  to  repair  the  button   but   after  that  went  back to  a   2.5 oz bean sinker  and  it  cast  like a  dream  just dont use to  heavy  sinker    the  soft  graphite  material  wont  take it   .....  or  one i got  wont,  

[GeneB]

I would love to argue with Last about low mounts and rod balance. Then I look at this Alvey user's photo from Texas and, I crawl back into my hole. Especially with the graphite reels, the lighter weight may be opening new opportunities. You think so?

[Last]

I may have fished on that jetty  Gene  it  sure  looks  like some where  I  been               nice  bull red that Texan  got  there.    

where  has  the   gov. guy  that had the  wood  alvey  reel   got  off  to    he  hasnt  made it to  this new  site  yet .      is  he still  down on gulf coast .?   cant  think of his name .